Debian, Suse or JDS
哪种比较好？ 有经验的大虾讲讲感受好不好嘛？ 去网上搜了搜，IDC说Debian的装机数和增长率都比suse多。 不知道这其中knoppix算了没有 ：-） 这些distro都差不多吧，不都是kernel加上一堆gnu软件，自己配置一个好了记得装的最多的应该是mandrake？ 另一篇文章讲为什么从Debian转到Suse:
Debian vs. SuSE
Installation and default setup
No need to talk about that. Debian's current stable version puts a system on your harddisk that boots, period. If anything, it configures your network, but only if it is not USB or WLAN based. It does not care about X11 (graphical user interface), mouse, RAID, volume management, Firewire, Bluetooth, DSL, power management (ACPI/APM), CD and DVD burners, TV/DVB cards, sound cards and whatever other stuff you might have plugged into your computer. All of that stuff needs to be installed and configured manually with Debian, comparable to Windows (although Windows at least produces a GUI for the installation).
The default SuSE installation is desktop oriented: KDE desktop with SuSE specific welcome and support icons, OpenOffice, RealPlayer 10, Macromedia Flash plugins, audio and video players, CD/DVD burning, and not much more. The whole system is about 1.5GB including all applications. (There is the option of installing a "minimal" system which would only be about 400MB, without GUI.) The default KDE menu is clean with few but relevant choices of software, not cluttered with hundreds of applications, like the default Debian desktop was (but this might have changed).
For me, using SuSE meant that I did not have to compile my own kernel because SuSE already contains the half dozen patches that I needed for regular use, e.g. ReiserFS updates. It meant that I did not have to compile my own KDE because SuSE provides updated KDE packages for all of their distributions. It meant that I did not have to manually configure my system to automatically recognize and display USB and/or Firewire harddisks when I plugged them in, or manually compile and configure ALSA to work with my soundcard. That saved me quite a bit of work, but also fun - fun tinkering for which I do not have the time any more..
http://www.jensbenecke.de/l-debian-suse.php Originally posted by gaga at 2005-5-12 22:40
这些distro都差不多吧，不都是kernel加上一堆gnu软件，自己配置一个好了
记得装的最多的应该是mandrake？
老兄啊， 自己配制一个，倒吸一口冷气！偶是初级玩家，不是高手，只会装default的东东，不会自己配制的呀？除非有别人写好的详细步骤。。。。 mandrake也不是装的最多的八? IDC没提。是不是Debian和mandrake是linux爱好者的选择，而企业很少用的？ 不知道应用程序多不多？
好像各个linux distribution之间还是有很多不同，所以应用程序有时候也不兼容的？ 居然找到一篇文章介绍怎样把 JDS 从 Suse 转到 Debian上去的。 差点晕倒！而且还说，JDS以后有可能正式转到Debian去。 :-)
http://supportforum.sun.com/sjds/index.php?t=msg&goto=4517&rid=0
Actually, JDS doesn't have any customizations to SuSE. Technically, the underpinnings are SLES built to Sun's specs. Sun then took Gnome 2.2 and added 2.4 components. So the vfolders configure as 2.2 but the Nautilus browser is 2.4 as is the panel, etc.
If it was a pure SuSE distribution then you'd see all kinds of kernel hooks to KDE. They aren't there.
I pulled the gnome theme engine and put it on 2.4 and 2.6 of other distributions. I then added MS fonts from this site:
http://avi.alkalay.net/software/msfonts/
If you can grab the remaining font sets, you can get close to the look and feel. You'll also need the icons.
The desktop is highly customized and even has admin hooks to JDS Control Station 2.1. Without those, an admin can tell that you aren't using JDS.
You might want to take a look at our community site: http://jdshelp.org and see if the RPMS we built will help you.
Additionally, we have a howto that lets you install apt-get and pull packages from a University ftp site that builds packages.
http://www.jdshelp.org/howtos/extras/apt-get.php
One other thing that might have you wait: JDS 3 for Linux will be delayed because of SuSE. Don't be surprised if the next JDS 3 for Linux winds up on top of Debian. Don't quote me on that because I have nothing more than a rumor to go by. But, it's a rumor with some substance to it and I didn't make it up. 偶现在彻底晕了， 看意思， 似乎不管底层是Suse还是Debian, 只要上面有JDS就好。。。
对了，这个坛子里不是有人刚刚从RedHat转到Debian上的嘛？ 讲讲为什么转好不好？还有转换过程顺不顺利？转换之后感想如何？ 一般是库依赖问题，不应该算做兼容性问题
我记得mandrake在桌面linux里一直是领跑的，易用性做的比较好
个人推荐如果玩的话还是slackware比较好，比较干净，也没有gentoo那么麻烦 本来只打算在Suse和JDS里面选一个的，后来有人说Debian好，我才开了这个贴子。三个已经把我弄得晕头转向了，现在可好，您老兄又加了三个给我，有六个了：
Debian, Suse, JDS, Mandrake, Slackware, Gentoo
偶不是更加没有方向了么？现在晕死。 既然有这么多选择， 偶要提条件了：
偶要一个 ----安装简单，界面漂亮，功能齐全，使用方便的 ---- linux distribution.
最好能够完全取代winxp，偶就不用在三个操作系统中间boot来boot去了。 I'd prefer SUSE, especially 'cause we are in DE.Here:
1. You get a huge user group to discuss with.
2.As far as i know, Suse has the most completed database for hardware support.
3. Also the best document and help system, easy for newbies and also for advanced users.
But globally, many tech. software providers would only support Redhat, also in most companies they use Redhat, if Linux.
other distro may be mainly stay for Linux fans.
Pls. feel free to correct me, if i am wrong. Thanks Gaga and Bebe for sharing your experiences and opinions.
1. Suse:Yes, I'm considering Suse because it comes originally from Germany, although it now belongs to an american company.
2. RedHat:It is said that RedHat is far away from other linux distributions. Compatibility is poor. So I won't consider RedHat.
3. Debian:Debian's advantage is that it belongs to GNU, which is a unprofitable organisation and Debian will not be influenced by any commercial company.
4. JDS:It has added many useful applications together with it's linux-based system. Another advantage for me is that I use the same GUI environment on Solaris.
As to Mandrake, Slackware and Gentoo, I have no idea on them at all...... They are for linux Gurus.
OK.I know many advantages of each linux distributions now. Can somebody tell me several disadvantages of some linux distributions? 实在想要比较那些distro可以去这里看看 http://distrowatch.com/
Ubuntu窜到NO.1了，我估计是和gnome2.10的发布有关，就个人感觉来说Ubuntu的启动速度实在是不敢恭维 这个网站很棒啊！太有价值了。
哈哈，讲一件得意和失意的事情。在这个网站上逛的时候，顺着一个联接转到了我放solaris screenshots的那个网站，显示一些solaris的图片： http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/Solaris 其中第二张图片好像是偶贴的，可惜不知道为甚么，图片没有联接到偶的账号上去。。。。 I agree with U for the pity...
So it is better for U to setup a formal Homepage and write down your Blogs.
Later U are supposed tobe invited to such a VIP group to evaluate or develop...
your enthusiasm deserve premium..
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[ Last edited by BeBe on 2005-5-13 at 17:38 ] Thanks for the encouragement. I have got an account in blogger.com and wil probably begin my blogging someday...
But what do you means "tobe invited to such a VIP group to evaluate or develop...".VIP group under bloggers, or some internet magazine, ororganisations? Originally posted by gaga at 2005-5-13 00:50
实在想要比较那些distro可以去这里看看 http://distrowatch.com/
Ubuntu窜到NO.1了，我估计是和gnome2.10的发布有关，就个人感觉来说Ubuntu的启动速度实在是不敢恭维
Ubuntu和gnome什么关系阿？
偶决定先试试Debian，如果不满意再换别的。我看Debian里面的package很全，担心的是界面不太好看，还有就是稳定性问题，现在都还只是测试版本。不管了，先试试再说吧。
$走了$ 好奇怪，Debian最后一个稳定版本是2002年发布的，今年初发布的还是一个update的测试版, 这中间的三年是怎么回事？ Originally posted by xiaobailong at 2005-5-13 20:06
Ubuntu和gnome什么关系阿？
偶决定先试试Debian，如果不满意再换别的。我看Debian里面的package很全，担心的是界面不太好看，还有就是稳定性问题，现在都还只是测试版本。不管了，先试试再说吧。
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目前gnome官方网站发布新版本时用的live cd是基于ubuntu的 试装了一下Debian, 现在有点麻烦。
在装bootloader的时候，没有让它装在主引导区，因为原先solaris已经有一个bootloader了，不想被覆盖掉，就随便选了一个空白分区给它。可是现在debian启动不起来。 那solaris呢? solaris可以启动起来。主要问题是现在不知道该怎样把debian加入boot manager里面去。
试了 root (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
不行，这是偶装debian的bootloader的地方，原先是两个分区之间残留的间隔区，也有几兆空间。
再试 (hd0,3), (hd0,4), (hd0,5) 都不行。 该怎样才能确定Debian是装在那个分区里了呢？solaris 是(hd0, 2), windows是(hd0,0)。偶也是看了menu.lst才知道的。 直接用kernel命令装载debian的核心文件不行吗？
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/bzImagexxxxx
boot Originally posted by gaga at 2005-5-14 23:21
直接用kernel命令装载debian的核心文件不行吗？
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/bzImagexxxxx
boot
试了一下，用（hd0,1), (hd0,4)都说 cannot mount the partition, 只有(hd0,3)说找不到指定的文件。
想去硬盘里面查查看，可是knoppix, solaris, winxp都说不支持reisefs. 晕阿晕， Debian缺省的是ext3, 偶还特地从ext3换成reisefs的。$失败$ 重新安装了一下Debian, 把文件系统换成ext3了，另外又安装了Debian带的bootloader, 现在三个操作系统debian, solaris , winxp 都可以启动了。
当然问题还是不少：
1。 装Debian的时候，有一步让选需要安装的software, 偶啥也没选，就不小心按了个回车。所以现在只有最最基本的安装，缺省的用户界面既不是gnome, 也不是KDE, 竟然是文字的。 狂faint!
2. Solaris的网卡驱动程序装好了，也能够获得动态IP和hostname, 可是由于偶不知道domain name service 到底是不是用的DNS, 也不知道偶应该用哪个服务器的服务，所以仍然不能随意地浏览网站，除非偶知道具体的IP地址。这个是不是应该和arcor联系一下呢？偶是用arcor的DSL上网的。还是随便找一个输进去就行了。问什么winxp和debian都不需要操心这个问题呢？ 网上找来的debian安装software时常用的命令：
apt-get update
apt-cache search foo
apt-get install foo
apt-get dist-upgrade (experts say n00bs should use apt-get upgrade)
get real time support at irc.debian.org
感觉偶快把这里当成偶的blog了，过两天贴到偶自己的blog里面去。。。 ++ and --:
1. Installed software packages with with "base-config" and now have gnome. :-)
2. With apt-get, installed chinese fonts and packages. I can read chinese with debian now. :-)
3. But still don't know how to input chinese. :-(
4. Debian's (default) chinese font isn't beautiful at all... :-( solaris may connect with DHCP into internet now.
Mandrake
用 Mandrake 吧， 装起来听方便的，用起来也不错，网上最新是 10。1的
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